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12:00 am November 22, 2011
| Phinsrule
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Matt Moore is under contract with Miami for the 2012 season, I really think Matt Moore will be our opening day starter next season. What are your thoughts on that?
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1:18 am November 22, 2011
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I hope we keep Moore around, but I'm iffy about the future still.. Of course, I'm a Henne fan, but Matt is playing well and is still under contract next year.. and Chad isn't. That could be all the difference; or we could still sign another QB in the offseason.. At this point, I think its too early to tell.
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10:44 am November 22, 2011
| Rico
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Post edited 10:44 am – November 22, 2011 by Rico
Were not even past week 12 yet man slow down. lol Way to many things can happen between now and next August.
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2:59 pm November 22, 2011
| Adam
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Post edited 2:59 pm – November 22, 2011 by Adam
Have a feeling Henne won't be back. They aren't going to sign him with Moore under contract.
And we're going to draft a QB in Round 1, this will be a very deep class. Luck, RG3, Barkley, Jones, Weened, and Tannehill.
Moore and the rookie will compete in camp, but ultimately I think the rookie we pick will be starting in 2012. You have to look at Moore's entire career, you can't have a knee-jerk reaction like the Bills with Fitzpatrick, Cardinals with Kolb, etc. Unless he lights up the rest of the season as well as training camp, doubt he starts.
John Elway said if you don't believe the QB you have can lead you to a Super Bowl, you have to keep looking. Moore is a good backup though.
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3:11 pm November 22, 2011
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Adam said:
Have a feeling Henne won't be back. They aren't going to sign him with Moore under contract.
And we're going to draft a QB in Round 1, this will be a very deep class. Luck, RG3, Barkley, Jones, Weened, and Tannehill.
Moore and the rookie will compete in camp, but ultimately I think the rookie we pick will be starting in 2012. You have to look at Moore's entire career, you can't have a knee-jerk reaction like the Bills with Fitzpatrick, Cardinals with Kolb, etc. Unless he lights up the rest of the season as well as training camp, doubt he starts.
John Elway said if you don't believe the QB you have can lead you to a Super Bowl, you have to keep looking. Moore is a good backup though.
My thoughts EXACTLY Adam!! We should keep Moore, draft at LEAST one QB, AND sign a veteran QB and let them all duke it out during camp. Moore has to show he can consistently play at this level. Dallas will be a good test of the "new and recently improved" Dolphins on both sides of the basll..should sow whther they've "turned the corner" or if the last 3 weeks have just been a mirage.
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7:58 pm November 22, 2011
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If he keeps playing like he is I see no problem with it at all.Matt is only in his 5th season.He is young.
Like I said before give this guy a chance and we shall see.So far I seen improvement in him every week.I would rather have Matt back then Henne.
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9:20 pm November 22, 2011
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Sorry to be the one to say it, but all a sudden everyone is a Matt Moore fan.. If Henne had the support this season that Moore is getting he would have been "the guy". It sickens me to think that we won't be signing him again this year.. If the rest of the team was playing as well as they are right now while Henne was behind center, we'd be lighting people up.. Not that I'm not thankful Moore is playing so well, but he's already gotten away with several balls that should have been picked. He stares down the recievers, and he's gonna get burned by good D-backs if it continues. Henne is a talented QB, and we should give him another shot.. Even if it's only a 1 year extension– just to see what he's got.
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2:09 am November 23, 2011
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Of course everyone is a Matt Moore fan and why not? Thursday will be Moore’s seventh game as a starter for the Dolphins. His 1,319 passing yards and 119 completions are already career bests for a season. He has thrown six touchdown passes in his past three games. His passer rating of 147.5 against the Kansas City Chiefs ranks third in Dolphins history. What is not to like about Matt Moore? And What makes you think if Henne returned next season that he would be the starter?
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8:47 pm November 24, 2011
| Adam
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That answer the question? Moore is a mediocre QB aka a BACKUP.
When you get to the goalline, you need a Killer QB who can make those tough throws. Most of the time, QBs like Moore and Henne can't. You can beat the Chiefs with Mediocre QBs and Field Goals, but not the top teams.
The New Regime will draft a QB high.
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2:01 am November 25, 2011
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I will admit Moore could have run for a TD on that last roll out in the red zone… 
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11:21 am November 25, 2011
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Yeah…I think Moore is a great backup to have, and will be good to push whatever rookie we have in camp.
Moore's 4 game stretch is better than any 4 game stretch Henne had. 7 TDs, 1 INT, 112 Rating, 901 yards…however doesn't see open receivers or open lanes to run, and struggles in the red zone. So he's the perfect backup where if you had a team that was 7-2 and your QB goes down, you trust Moore enough to beat the bad teams and get you to the playoffs and hope your starter is healthy.
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12:14 pm November 26, 2011
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I'm not taking anything away from Moore.. He's doing a great job. But Henne beat him out for the position, so if we do retain him, who's to say that he wouldn't be in competition for the starting job again? I think Moore is doing a great job for us, but I'm just not sure of his ability to keep playing at this level. If he does, great.. I'm def cool with that. I just think that nothing has been set in stone yet, and if the rest of the team is performing at this level, we could have just about anyone at QB and still win games. I think the real test is gonna come when the rest of the team isn't playing that well, and it all gets placed on Matt's shoulders. That will be a real indication of the level he can play at. Hopefully he can continue to shine.. But I guess we'll see.
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4:45 pm November 26, 2011
| 808phan
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Post edited 4:51 pm – November 26, 2011 by 808phan
Brodyboy09 said:
I'm not taking anything away from Moore.. He's doing a great job. But Henne beat him out for the position, so if we do retain him, who's to say that he wouldn't be in competition for the starting job again? I think Moore is doing a great job for us, but I'm just not sure of his ability to keep playing at this level. If he does, great.. I'm def cool with that. I just think that nothing has been set in stone yet, and if the rest of the team is performing at this level, we could have just about anyone at QB and still win games. I think the real test is gonna come when the rest of the team isn't playing that well, and it all gets placed on Matt's shoulders. That will be a real indication of the level he can play at. Hopefully he can continue to shine.. But I guess we'll see.
I agree with your asessment for the most part there Brodyboy.
But…as far as Henne "beating him out" for the starting position in 2011, there wasn't even an open competition. Henne has been named the undisputed starter since Penny left, and he's had the luxury of not having to compete for it with anyone. He was drafted and groomed to replace Penny for that job from the get go with no questions asked. Matt Moore was simply brought here to replace Thigpen as the backup and nothing more. No matter how well he played in the preseason, he wasn't going to be named the starting QB for Miami. That decision had already been made long before Moore even got here. End of story for that.
As being an undrafted free agent into the NFL, I don't think that Moore was even brought into this league to be anything more than a backup to begin with. He's been very fortunate in his situation to have been able to start/play during his career between Carolina & now the Dolphins. Not many UDFA backups get the opportunity he's had; he's been in a very rare situation during his career.
I think Matt did well when Jake Delhomme went down in '09. He was able to contribute to beating some very good teams – Giants, Vikings, & Saints. Those were all top tier highly competitive NFC teams that were contenders that year. He threw for 8 TD's & 1 int in his five starts, and he played good enough as to where Delhomme was released. In 2010 after being named the starter, he got a bad concussion in their very 1st game and was out for a while. He struggled after that and then got hurt again and was put out for the rest of the season with a shoulder injury. I'm not going to judge the guy for his wishy-washy play between getting hurt in 2010. They have Cam Newton now, and they're still not winning.
I think that Moore is at least a servicable QB. At this point he's capable of competing for a starting job, as I said, he's fortunate that he's had the opportunity to develop himself at being a starter by getting the experience he's had so far, which really isn't much as compared to how long Chad Henne has had to develop. IF Chad Henne gets a contract extension, I'm pretty sure that he'd finally have to compete for the starting job. Moore has definitlely shown this organization that Chad Henne has been nothing special. I think Moore has the capability to become better than he is now, but, that's only something he himself can prove, and that's something that only the rest of this season will show.
Right now I'm only guessing, but I think Moore is doing to Henne the same thing that he did to Delhomme which is making Henne appear to be expendable. To me he's showing that Henne is no better of a QB than he is, even though Henne has a lot more experience as a starter and was groomed to be one from the get go. So far Moore has played his way against the odds to having the 10th best QB rating in the league at this very moment, and right now there's a lot of 1st round pick starting QB's below that.
I'm not 100% certain, but I have a hunch that this team will let Henne walk and draft a QB in the 1st round. I've heard nothing about any contract talks to extend him, and he gets no mention from the media whatsoever. Usually by now or in the near future there's some talk about it. In his case, he's unfortunate to be unable to market himself on the field being out on IR – so what you saw so far is all he's got to show & that's it. This could have and should have been his year to prove that he's improved a lot, but that injury screwed his chances to prove it. As a fan I wanted his head by the end of the last season as I felt he was taking too long to develop. This year was my last chance for him to show that he has "it" with no more excuses. I feel bad for him that he got hurt, buy my level of patience to wait another year after this has run out. He's had a lot of time here & I believe it's time to move ahead.
So here's my prediction for 2012 -
We just might see a new head coach/staff – Although the players love him, there's been too much WTF coaching during gametime.
We just might see Matt being kept & Henne released and becoming a free agent – Matt is developing with less time here.
We just might see this team draft a QB in the 1st round by that new coach to make him "his" boy – That's usually how it works out.
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9:03 pm November 29, 2011
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If Matt keeps up the great play and is back for next season.You might see teams try and trade for him.If we do draft a rookie QB in the first round I would dought Matt would want to play 2nd string.Matt will probably want to compete for a starting job.
This is the big question.If Matt continues to look strong do we still draft a QB in the first round??
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1:05 am December 3, 2011
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Post edited 1:06 am – December 3, 2011 by 808phan
Dan Marino himself said that "Moore is playing well and he's good for the team now, but the Dolphins should still look for someone who'll be here for the next 10-13 years to build the team around, and if Moore works out, then that's great."
From that radio interview with Dan, I take that he thinks this team should still draft high. My thoghts? Yes, there should be a plan "A" & a plan "B". We've only won three games, and they've been meaningless games. We've still yet to see Matt perform well in the clutch & win when it really counts.
Long story short, I'm going to trust in what Dan thinks. And here's something else to think about – Dan was the last QB that this team drafted in the 1st round. I think it's long overdue.
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2:41 am December 5, 2011
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Post edited 2:42 am – December 5, 2011 by Phinsrule
marvelman said:
If Matt keeps up the great play and is back for next season.You might see teams try and trade for him.If we do draft a rookie QB in the first round I would dought Matt would want to play 2nd string.Matt will probably want to compete for a starting job.
This is the big question.If Matt continues to look strong do we still draft a QB in the first round??
I read an article that said Matt Moore was the 3rd highest ranked QB in the league for the month of November so why waste a first round draft pick on a rookie QB that may suck?..Hell I wouldnt even draft a QB next season! instead in FA I would pick up Matt Flynn (GB) - Matt Flynn may be the most pursued man. In his lone regular season appearance, he moved the Packers offense up and down the field in a national game, and almost knocked off a Patriots team in their house. Flynn has been taught by and learned from the best in Green Bay and will be ready!
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3:52 am December 5, 2011
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Phinsrule said:
marvelman said:
If Matt keeps up the great play and is back for next season.You might see teams try and trade for him.If we do draft a rookie QB in the first round I would dought Matt would want to play 2nd string.Matt will probably want to compete for a starting job.
This is the big question.If Matt continues to look strong do we still draft a QB in the first round??
I read an article that said Matt Moore was the 3rd highest ranked QB in the league for the month of November so why waste a first round draft pick on a rookie QB that may suck?..Hell I wouldnt even draft a QB next season! instead in FA I would pick up Matt Flynn (GB) - Matt Flynn may be the most pursued man. In his lone regular season appearance, he moved the Packers offense up and down the field in a national game, and almost knocked off a Patriots team in their house. Flynn has been taught by and learned from the best in Green Bay and will be ready!
If Matt Moore keeps this up he will want to be a starting QB with us next year.If we happen to draft a qb in the first round I highly dought Matt would want to stick around.The way Matt is playing he deserves to be our starter next year.I just can't predict what our team will do in the draft.I will say this Matt has made it very difficult for our organization.I guess we just will have to wait till it all plays out and see how we finish up the season.
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8:29 pm December 5, 2011
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Matt Moore is good. Maybe even VERY good, but he is not great.
Can he become great? I dont think so, but you never know.
I think the fact that the Dolphins have not drafted and QBs in the first round since Marino says a lot. That trend should stop. Get some first rounds QBs in here. Maybe they wont be great either, but take a few shots. Hard to get a GREAT QB if you never even try drafting one, and just go after free agents or trades.
There are a lot more teams who win SuperBowls with big time QBs than there are teams who win with Trent Dilfers. It can be done, but odds are better for the team with a GREAT QB, not just a good one.
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2:06 am December 6, 2011
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What do Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Tony Romo, Matt Schaub, Eli Manning, Alex Smith, Ben Roethlisberger and Matt Stafford all have in common with the Dolphins’ Matt Moore?
If you said a quarterback rating in the top 10 of the NFL you are one of the few who guessed right.
While the Dolphins defense deserves much of the credit for the team’s turnaround and 4-1 record during the past five weeks, it’s hard to ignore what Moore has done over the same stretch. He has completed 64.3 percent of his passes (83 of 129) for 1,063 yards, eight touchdowns and one interception (107.47 rating).
Believe it or not we got our QB we just need to extend his contract!
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4:13 pm December 9, 2011
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I'm tottally on board with you're saying. However, it's too soon to make any assumptions about Moore and where he'll be after this season.
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